Go Fish in a Puddle with Chelsea Madden

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In this solo episode, Bryan and special guest Chelsea Madden dive into the power of intent data and how sales teams can leverage it to craft smarter, more effective strategies. They discuss why intent data is a game-changer for identifying when prospects are actively researching solutions—but with a caveat: it’s not a shortcut to the sale.

Learn how to use intent data authentically, avoid the “big brother” vibe, and adopt a consultative approach that resonates with prospects. If you want to deepen your engagement across the decision-making process, and fish in a puddle instead of the ocean, this episode is a must-listen!

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Smarter Sales Rewards with Chris Dornfeld

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In this solo episode, Bryan and special guest Chris Dornfeld dive into the science of effective sales compensation and incentive programs. They explore why most incentive budgets fail to deliver the intended results and how a behavior-focused, data-driven approach can change that. Chris shares insights from his company, Whistle, which uses behavioral science to optimize incentive programs, showing that immediate, personalized rewards tied to specific sales activities are far more effective than traditional lump-sum payouts.

You’ll learn why cash remains king, how to layer individual and team-based incentives, and the benefits of automating real-time rewards to keep motivation high. If you’re trying to build a dynamic rewards system that drives the right behaviors, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you rethink your approach to motivating your sales team.

Curious about certification in the Blind Zebra Sales Operating System? Learn more here.

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